Friends,
Those who oppose the teaching of grace use Jude 1:4 as their strongest argument against it. Let us read the verse together:
Jud 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Who / what is the subject of the statement? Is it "grace" or "certain men"? Obviously it is "certain men".
It says that these "certain men"
- who were before of old ordained to this condemnation ...
- are ungodly men
- turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness
- denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Does the passage say that:
- these "certain men" are preachers of grace?
- the preachers of grace are "before of old" ordained to condemnation?
- the preachers of grace are ungodly men?
- the preachers of grace are lascivious?
- the preachers of grace deny only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ?
Every preacher of grace knows that grace flows from God through Jesus Christ.
The passage is about some people who deny Our God and Our Lord Jesus Christ and who were "condemned from before of old". Is there any way to prove that all the preachers of grace are condemned of old - from long ago? We have heard about terms like "elected from the foundation of the world" and "predestination". Does this passage say that all the preachers of grace are predestined to to be condemned? Absolutely not!
The passage is about the deniers of God and Jesus Christ - no sane Christian would ever deny God and Jesus Christ. The passage is about someone else who matches the criteria of Antichrist.
I wish grace deniers learn to read the scriptures analytically.
In Christ,
Tomsan Kattackal
Jude simply says to be discerning and wise because we see many preachers these days who speak of hyper grace which people wrongly misconstrue as a license to sin thinking all sim is covered by grace. Grace is power too to live in holiness,not just pardon.
ReplyDeleteBefore getting upset about anything that you see on the internet, have the courage to have a proper identity (if "Unknown" is your name as per records).
DeleteJUDE is NOT SIMPLY SAYING anything, Jude and 2 Peter 2 and 3 are passages that most of the Christians haven't studied or understood. I'm sure that you haven't studied or understood, either. If you have, you won't have made the above comment, talking about things that you don't understand and slandering those who do not subscribe to your beliefs.
It applies to us as christians or not
DeleteIs it a question? It doesn't appear to be a question to me. If it were:
DeleteJas 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, TO THE TWELVE TRIBES WHICH ARE SCATTERED ABROAD, greeting.
I don't belong to one of the 12 tribes, probably, you belong to one of them. A letter that is addressed to my wife is intended for her, not me.